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DAVE MUSTAINE On Recording His Version Of METALLICA's 'Ride The Lightning': 'When You Do A Song From Somebody, You've Gotta Do It As Good Or Better'



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During an appearance on the December 5 episode of SiriusXM's "Trunk Nation With Eddie Trunk", Dave Mustaine spoke about his decision to include his version of "Ride The Lightning", the title track of METALLICA's 1984 album for which he got a co-writing credit following his 1983 departure from the band, on the final MEGADETH album, simply titled "Megadeth". Regarding how the new recording came about, Dave said (as transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET): "We're managed by three men — Danny Nozell, Steve Ross and Justis Mustaine. And we were talking with management, and we were just kind of yacking about what the cover song was gonna be on the record, 'cause we always did cover songs on our records. But this wasn't a cover song, because I wrote it with James [Hetfield, METALLICA frontman]. And it just became clear that I should do this, because if I'm going to ride off into the sunset, I wanna pay tribute to the band that I started in, and I wanted to make mention about what I think about James."

Mustaine continued: "I think [James is] an exceptional guitar player. I remember the day that I saw him play guitar for the first time. We were playing at the Whisky [A Go Go in West Hollywood, California]. And we had a guitar player with us, and his name was Brad Parker. And the night of the show he changed it to Damian Phillips. And he showed up at the Whisky in mid-1980s Rudy Sarzo garb. And I thought, 'Wow, that's not gonna go down.' And I looked at him and he had a giant feather earring. And I thought to myself, 'This guy's not gonna be here very long.' So I go to rehearsal, after the show, the next rehearsal I go and there's no Brad, there's no Damian, nobody. It was just James playing guitar — like a motherfucker. And I thought, 'How did this happen? How did this guy go from singer to a great guitar player like this?' And I was excited for me. I was excited for the band. And we started playing then."

As for how "Ride The Lightning" was chosen as the song for MEGADETH to record this time around, Mustaine said: "With the track, choosing that, I figured it should be something that I had something to do with, but I didn't know it was going to turn out like that. Something off of [METALLICA's debut album] 'Kill 'Em All' would've been obvious, and we already did that [with 'Mechanix']. And so I was thinking about 'Ride The Lightning', and there's only a couple songs on there that I wrote. And I didn't think that 'The Call Of Ktulu' would be the right move, 'cause that's not even how the song was when I was in the band; they changed it so much, so it's not the way that I remember it. So we started doing 'Ride', and it just felt so great, listening to the tracks, listening to James's singing, listening to how the song structure was. It was just great. I loved it. And I've always believed when you do a song from somebody, you've gotta do it as good or better — you've got to. So we sped it up a little bit and we beefed up a couple parts, just to make them a little bit more modern. And there you have it."

Mustaine previously talked about MEGADETH's version of "Ride The Lightning" this past October in an interview with Rolling Stone magazine. He said at the time: "It wasn't really that I wanted to do my version. I think that we all wanted it to turn out a certain way, and for me, this was about something so much more than how a song turns out. It was about respect."

Speaking specifically about Hetfield, Mustaine added: "No one ever talks to me about that. One day he's a singer, the next day he's this fucking powerhouse and I've always respected him as a guitar player. So I wanted to do something to close the circle on my career right now, since it started off with [Mustaine's band before METALLICA] PANIC and several of the songs that ended up in the METALLICA repertoire, I wanted to do something that I felt would be a good song."

Elaborating on his reasons for recording "Ride The Lightning" for MEGADETH's final album, Mustaine said: "Our intentions were pure. I didn't have any reason I was going to say, 'Oh, hey man, this thing that we've had for 40 years where you guys will never tour with me, me doing the song is going to change things.' That wasn't it at all. It was more about: This is my life going forward. I want to do things that are respectable. And I think doing something where we can pay honor to the guy that … I mean, I hate to say this, because it's just so fucking arrogant, but the guitar playing in METALLICA changed the world."

In a separate video message, Mustaine said: "So on the new album we recorded 'Ride The Lightning', and the reason we did that was, obviously, it's a song that I had a lot to do with writing it. And James and I, when we were working on the song, it became clear to me, when James first started playing guitar, how good of a guitar player he was. And I thought it would be really cool to close the circle to show respect, to play the songs that I've written with METALLICA and to honor our friendship, even though it's been strained and ruined from emotions over the years when we were not necessarily friendly. But one thing I've always had is I've always had a tremendous respect for James's guitar playing and [METALLICA drummer] Lars's [Ulrich] songwriting. So, it was cool to do this and add it to the record. We sped it up just a little teeny bit, and we kind of played around a little bit with the solo and Teemu [Mäntysaari, MEGADETH guitarist] and I both tossed it back and forth to each other. So, you might hear a little bit of some differences with the tempos and, of course, I sing different from James too. But once again, it was about completing the circle and just showing what James and I, as guitar players, did to change the world."

"Megadeth" will be released on January 23, 2026 via Mustaine's Tradecraft imprint in partnership with Frontiers Label Group's new BLKIIBLK label.

Mustaine co-wrote the song "Ride The Lightning" with Hetfield, Ulrich and then-METALLICA bassist Cliff Burton.

"Megadeth" track listing:

01. Tipping Point
02. I Don't Care
03. Hey, God?!
04. Let There Be Shred
05. Puppet Parade
06. Another Bad Day
07. Made To Kill
08. Obey The Call
09. I Am War
10. The Last Note
11. Ride The Lightning (bonus track)

This past May, Mustaine gave a three-hour interview to Shawn Ryan, a former Navy SEAL and CIA contractor, and host of the Shawn Ryan Show, in which he spoke about his brief stint as a member of METALLICA in the early 1980s. Asked how he ended up joining METALLICA, Dave responded: "I was done with [my previous band] PANIC and I said, 'I'm gonna find something else to do.' So I got a newspaper called The Recycler, and it's just a rag from Los Angeles, Orange County. It's like a county classified ad magazine. And I'm looking in the classified ad magazine. Go figure. The biggest band in the world would advertise in this newspaper. So I look at it and it says, 'Wanted lead guitar player' and mentioned a couple bands. So I called up and I got Lars [Ulrich, METALLICA drummer] on the phone, and I said, 'Yeah, well, I like MOTÖRHEAD and I like BUDGIE. And he goes, 'You like fucking BUDGIE, man?' And I went, 'Yeah, I do.' And that was the icebreaker because BUDGIE is a Welsh band. It's a three-piece. It's very obscure. And by me listening to them showed that I had credibility in the New Wave Of British Heavy Metal world because of the bands I was listening to. They were not a band like a white metal band or a progressive metal band. They were a three-piece from Wales that kicked ass. They didn't have to have all those silly names in front of it."

Mustaine continued: " So, [Lars and I] were on the phone, and he made that comment that I know them, and I said, 'Yeah.' So we talked about meeting face to face. And I drove down from Huntington Beach to Newport Beach where he lived in a place called — I think it was called Park Newport. And the funny thing was my mom was a maid and she had actually worked a event for catering in his complex he was in. And I'm thinking, 'Go figure. My mom was a maid here and your mom has a place here. What a story that is, two different sides of the same coin.' And so I went into his place and started talking to him. And he played this song called 'Hit The Lights' that was written by a guy named Lloyd Grant. METALLICA didn't write that song. Lloyd Grant wrote it, and then he was friends with Lars, and then Lars introduced him to James [Hetfield, METALLICA guitarist/vocalist] and then they started playing 'Hit The Lights'. That's a song that I heard from them first and I said, 'Wow, this song needs way more lead solos in it.' It was just me being cocky, being me: 'It needs more lead solos in it.' And he was trying to figure out if I was for real. And so we went to rehearsal. He said, 'We're gonna try you out.' I said, okay. I mean, I knew how good I played. I have been gifted, and I know it's not by my own doing, so I don't try to take any credit for it. So I don't care how good I am or not, or what people say or anything like that. So I just knew what I knew, what I knew. And I went to [then-METALLICA bassist] Ron McGovney's parents' fourplex. They had this place that James was living with Ron. And I went up there with Lars and I set up my amps and I plugged my guitar in and I just started warming up. [And] they wouldn't come in. They wouldn't come into the rehearsal room. So I put my guitar down and I thought, 'This is really strange.' And I walked out and I said, 'Guys, are we gonna do the audition?' They said, 'You got the gig.'"

Mustaine went on to say that he "knew" he would get the METALLICA gig when he first went to audition for the band. "'Cause I could play that stuff," he explained. "I mean, there weren't very many guitar players like me around at the time. Who were they? Randy Rhoads. There were people like that. The guy from RATT — Warren DeMartini was really great. But real shredders? There wasn't a lot of us around at the time."

Asked what it felt like being in METALLICA in those early days, Mustaine said: "Well, again, it's kind of like it seemed like this was what my destiny was. And when it came time for us to do our first concert, we played at a high school, or maybe it was a junior high school Lars might've gone to. I know he went to it, but I can't remember if it was elementary or junior or high school, whatever. And from that point on, it was just clear that whenever there was any kind of altercation that was going down, I would be the one that would take care of it. James was very peaceful, and Lars, he was a little bit of a devil; he liked to have fun. But, yeah, if there was ever any stuff going down, I had to take care of it. When we went up to San Francisco and did our first couple shows up there at a place called The Stone, I was the one who had to go and collect the money. And there's a million ways to embezzle or to be corrupt when it comes down to running a club or a bar when it involves a band getting paid. They can say all kinds of stuff. And if you don't know, you don't know. And most kids my age at that time don't know. And they try and get money and they'll say, 'Well, you sold 200 tickets and you have a bar tab here, and so we're gonna give you 150 bucks.' And you know that they made a killing on their booze. You know that they made money on the food and snacks that they have there and the ticket prices. Plus they take a giant whack of your merchandise. And that was my gig. I would go do that."

Reflecting on METALLICA's ill-fated cross-country trip in the spring of 1983 that resulted in his firing from the band, Mustaine said: "When we decided we were gonna move out to New York, that was because Lars had found somebody he wanted to manage us, this guy Jonny Zazula, who had Megaforce Records. And [Jonny] heard our demo tape, the 'No Life 'Til Leather' demo tape. And he lost his mind, just like everybody else in the world. And they wanted to get the band to come out and record a record. And while we were on the way out there, we got in a car crash. We were driving through the snow. None of us knew how to drive through snow except for Lars, because he was from Denmark. And I'm driving this Ryder truck. It's a 24-foot truck, and it had a tow bar and it had James's pickup on the back. So when we were driving, we hit black ice and the whole thing spun around while I was driving. And I managed to keep it upright in the middle of the freeway, but the truck stopped and oncoming traffic was coming towards us. And the events that happened at that location… The guy that had produced — I think he produced the first [METALLICA] record; his name's Mark Whitaker. He was the guy that was doing our sound and stuff. He almost died. I had to push him out of the way, and a truck was to the right or right where he was standing. So if I wouldn't have seen that truck coming and saved his life, he'd be dead right now. And when we went to the U-Haul place to get our truck, we placed and moved all of our gear into the new truck. James and Lars had made a decision to replace me because they tried to pin that driving thing on me as the last straw."

Addressing the allegations that his excessive drinking was the main reason he was fired from METALLICA, Mustaine said: "We all drank. That's why they called it ALCOHOLICA. I mean, they didn't call it DAVE-ALCOHOLICA. We all drank. And they continued to drink like that even after I was gone. But that was, I think, the beginning of the end. And when we got out to New York, I had a reel of tape, this quarter-inch tape, that had probably two days' worth of guitar riffs on it, just me playing and playing and playing. And we took that tape player and the reel of tape with us out to New York. We did two shows out there, and after those two shows, they woke me up one morning and said, 'Look, you're out of the band.' And I said, 'What are you talking about?' 'You're out of the band.' I said, 'No warning? No second chance? You're not gonna give me a warning? You're just gonna kick me out?' And I thought that was unfair. And it showed a grotesque lack of character. And so that pissed me off and was a huge part of the fuel. But at the time, I was really mad and I didn't wanna forgive them for what they did. And I told them when I left, 'Do not use my music. And of course they used it. [The] 'Ride The Lightning' [title track] I wrote. 'The Call Of Ktulu' I wrote. Let's see, what else? There's 'Phantom Lord', 'Metal Militia', 'Jump In The Fire', 'The Four Horsemen'. And I wrote a bunch of 'Leper Messiah' [on METALLICA's third album, 'Master Of Puppets'] too. They didn't give me credit on that. You listen to the riffs, you know they're my riffs. It's, like, you think I'm gonna all of a sudden hear my riff and say, 'That's not me.' So, yeah, I wrote a lot of their music that made them, and all the solos on that first record were mine — the best Kirk [Hammett, Mustaine's replacement in METALLICA] could try and copy them."

Asked why he was singled out and fired from METALLICA when everybody in the band drank heavily at that point, Dave said: "Because when I got drunk, I got violent. James and I had gone out to a club one time. It was the old Mabuhay [Gardens in San Francisco]. It was across the street from The Stone. And we were out front, and some guy came out of the alleyway and he said, 'There's a guy beating some girl up in the alleyway.' And, of course, I being the champion for justice, did not want to hear that and not do anything. So I went down the alleyway with James, and, of course, James not being a fighter, started yelling out, 'Kill him, kill him, kill him.' And the guy comes out from behind a van and he was much bigger than James, and he said, 'Who's gonna kill me?' And James goes — points to me. So I immediately grabbed a guy and put him down in a submission and started rabbit punching him until he stopped moving. And then we ran out of the alleyway and we stood out front until the paramedics came. And that was it. So I imagine he saw that and he figured, 'I don't wanna be part of this. Dave's already beat me up back down in Los Angeles, and he's just too violent.' 'Cause James did get a punch in the mouth from me. He kicked my puppy."

Elaborating on the punch-up that occurred between him and Hetfield, Mustaine said: "I was selling pot for a living, so one time I did a concert and people knew I was on stage, so they just shimmied the window. There was nobody there. They took all my pot, and I was pissed. So I got two dogs. My nephew took one and I took the other one, and I had taken her up with me to rehearsal. And she was playing and she's looking up at me. I'm standing over here. Ron McGovney's got this really nice GTO and she leans up against the car and puts her paws on the front quarter panel and [James] goes bang and kicked the dog. And I went, 'What did you just do? What did you just do?' And it went from the front yard into the house, and there was still stuff being said. And I said, 'You better shut up or I'm gonna punch you in the mouth. And then Ron McGovney says, 'If you hit him, you're gonna have to hit me first.' And I said, 'You stay out of it.' And then James said the same thing: 'If you hit him, you're gonna have to hit me first.' And I said, 'Okay, you win.' And bang, I hit James in the mouth, and then I hip-tossed Ron into his television set-up. And that was it. Two strikes and it was over. And Lars was pulling his hair going, 'I don't want it to end this way.' And I thought, 'You know what? I've already told you, it's either me or James.' And we did that a bunch of times, 'cause James was doing stupid stuff. And I told James the same thing. I said, 'Man, it's either me or Lars, 'cause Lars sucks.' And I got the ax in the end. So it's good. Fine."

Asked what he did after he got "axed" from METALLICA, Mustaine said: "I went home and I contacted a friend of mine and I said, 'I quit.' She said, 'No, you didn't. You got fired.' And I said, 'Yeah, I got fired. I quit. I got fired, whatever. I'm back home. Wrong word. [it's] not changing the outcome.' And I made sure not to ever say that I quit, 'cause I wanted people to know that I was unfairly dismissed and that I didn't give a shit. 'Cause we [MEGADETH] may not be as big as they [METALLICA] are. Hell, their biggest song, 'Enter Sandman', go look up the band EXCEL right now. Look up their song — I think it's something 'Into The Unknown'. [Editor's note: The track is actually called 'Tapping Into The Emotional Void'.] Pretty similar."

A decade ago, Grant told the "Rockzone Legends" show that he first heard "Hit The Lights" when Ulrich played it for him before their first rehearsal with Hetfield. "James was playing bass and I was playing guitar and Lars was playing drums," Lloyd recalled. "And we rehearsed that 'Hit The Lights' song. But way before that, Lars let me hear that song. We were hanging out watching soccer, and he says, 'Hey, I met this guy,' blah blah blah, 'and he's exactly what we wanna jam with.' And he played this one song, and it was great, and that's how I first was introduced to 'Hit The Lights'. And after that, I went over and jammed a few times. Then he called me and said they were gonna be on this compilation album ['Metal Massacre'] and he brought over a tape of 'Hit The Lights' recorded on a four-track and asked me to make some solos for that, and they were gonna bring the four-track down and they were just gonna put it out an dump it on the compilation album."

In a November 2022 interview with Greg Prato of Songfacts, Mustaine was asked to elaborate on his comment that he would like to collaborate again with Hetfield. Asked if he actually discussed that with James, Dave said: "The last time we talked it didn't end very well because we have some memory of a couple of things that took place when I was in the band. I remember it one way and he is saying that it happened another. But it's about somebody else — it's not even him. He's talking to me on behalf of 'you know who'," apparently referring to Ulrich. "They wanted to release 'No Life 'Til Leather' [the early METALLICA demo Mustaine was on] — 27 songs, posters, flyers, pictures, everything. I said I would love to do this thing, and James said, 'Look, we fucked up. The last three things we've done failed abysmally.' He said it was 'Lulu' [METALLICA's collaboration with Lou Reed, released in 2011], something called Orion [a festival called Orion Music + More that took place in 2012 and 2013], and there was one other thing... I think it was a film about a fan or something [the 2013 film 'Metallica: Through The Never']. I don't know. I don't see them as a failure. But I had said, 'Yeah, I'd be interested.' And he said, 'We'd like to get everything right with all the history, the publishing and stuff.' And I said, 'Good.' Because part of the reason why we haven't been able to really reconcile is because I had songs that when I left I didn't want them to record, and they went ahead and recorded them but they didn't pay me what my share of the songs were.

"James and I wrote 'Metal Militia' and 'Phantom Lord' — every note," Dave continued. "And somehow, on the record ['Kill 'Em All'] it says Lars gets 10%. And on 'Metal Militia' that Kirk gets some of it, and he wasn't even in the band.

"So I've come to terms with it, and when he said, 'We'd like to get this right,' I said, 'Great. Let's do it. I have no problem.' And when I said, 'This is what it is,' he said, 'No. It's kind of what it was, and that's how it is.' And I thought to myself, you know what? When you guys did that to me before, it was not cool. I said, 'Don't use my stuff' and you did it, and then didn't give me my fair share. So why would I want to willingly enter into something like that? I wouldn't. So that's where we stand right now.

"I would love to work with James. I'd like to work with Lars again, too, but I think the real talent in METALLICA has always been around the guitar — everybody makes fun of the drums.

"Lars is a really great song arranger. And believe it or not, I watched him on a piece-of-shit acoustic guitar write the opening riff to 'Master Of Puppets'. You know what that was? It was a guy with a guitar that doesn't know how to play, and he's going [mimics playing a chromatic run] on the neck. It wasn't anything really mind-blowing by any means. The way James played it made it mind-blowing."

Seven years ago, Mustaine said that he didn't want to "perpetuate false information" by giving Ulrich songwriting credit on the previously announced expanded version of "No Life 'Til Leather".

"No Life 'Til Leather" was released as a limited-edition cassette for Record Store Day in April 2015, available exclusively in independent record stores. It featured artwork copies from drummer Ulrich's own personal copy of the original demo, as well as his handwriting. At the time, the band also promised that expanded editions of the demo, which had never before been commercially available, would arrive on CD, vinyl and in a collector's set.

The seven-song tape was recorded with the first lineup of the band that appeared live as METALLICA, including Ulrich, Hetfield, lead guitarist Mustaine and bassist Ron McGovney. The original recordings were paid for by High Velocity record label owner Kenny Kane, with a view of making them available as an EP in 1982.

Mustaine discussed the proposed expanded edition of "No Life 'Til Leather" during a June 2018 interview with U.K.'s Kerrang! magazine. Saying that the last time he spoke to Hetfield was when the METALLICA guitarist/vocalist called him to talk about the "No Life 'Til Leather" re-release, Mustaine recalled: "He was trying to get me to give publishing over to Lars, despite James and I being the sole songwriters. Lars wanted a percentage and I just said no. I love James, he's a terrific guitar player, but yeah, I can't do that. The songs are already out there. I'm not going to release something just to have a product to sell — especially if they are perpetuating false information. Lars did not write the songs. It was just me and James. Period."

Ulrich told Metal Forces in 2016 that "some unexpected difficulties on the legal side… prevented the 'No Life 'Til Leather' box set and our vision for how we were going to kick this whole reissue series off. We spent some time doing that dance, but then James and I decided that it wasn't worth it getting bogged down in all the unpleasantries, because this was supposed to be a celebration and not end up being a tug of war, so we thought, 'You know what? Fuck it. We'll just move on to 'Kill 'Em All'," he said.

Ulrich did not want to get into the details of the exact issues that were preventing the demo tape from being released. "It's a little more complicated than that," he said. "There's no reason to go deeper into it. It was just something that we hadn't expected."

Back in November 2017, Mustaine tweeted that he was contacted by Hetfield two years earlier about "officially" releasing "No Life Till Leather" with "27 tracks, pics, the whole enchilada," but, he said, "the talks broke down because Lars wanted credit on two songs I wrote every note and word to. I have the texts. I passed."

When Ulrich spoke to Metal Forces in 2016, he made it clear that METALLICA was still hopeful that the expanded version "No Life 'Til Leather" would arrive at a later date. "As you know, I am the eternal optimist, and I am the eternal 'glass is well fucking half full,' so who knows?" he said. "I think some of those parties have circled back around now that they've seen that this is real and so we'll have to see. It would be great to share 'No Life 'Til Leather' in a year or two with our fans and with the people that care. We haven't shut the door on it."

"No Life 'Til Leather" was recorded on July 6, 1982 at Chateau East Studio in Tustin, California. All the songs on the tape later appeared on the band's 1983 debut album, "Kill 'Em All", including "Hit The Lights", "Motorbreath", "Jump In The Fire", "Seek And Destroy", "Metal Militia", "Phantom Lord" and "The Mechanix", which was renamed "The Four Horsemen" on the album.

Mustaine was a member of METALLICA for less than two years, from 1981 to 1983, before being dismissed and replaced by Hammett.

Mustaine was not inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame with METALLICA during the April 2009 ceremony at Cleveland, Ohio's Public Auditorium. Ulrich later explained to The Plain Dealer that Mustaine "never played on any METALLICA records. No disrespect to him. But there [were] half a dozen other people that were in the lineup in the early days. We thought... the fair thing to do would be to include anybody that played on a METALLICA record." He added: "Dave Mustaine was in the band for eleven months, predominantly in 1982... I'm not trying to play it down. I have nothing but respect and admiration for his accomplishments since."






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8 дек 2025
Нет, дедушка Мастейн, это КАВЕР. Песня изначально вышла на альбоме металлики, и плевать что ты автор, тебя уже нет в группе. Ты писал эту песню для группы, тебя выгнали из группы, а песня осталось. Всё справедливо
8 дек 2025
Санчез, то есть если ты жил с бабой она родила от тебя сына потом вы развелись и пацан остался с матерью жить то теперь это уже не твой сын а просто посторонний ребёнок ? Только не надо писать что * ТЫ не понимаешь это совсем другое *
8 дек 2025
olly71, блять, ну ты сравнил сына с песней конечно)
8 дек 2025
olly71, тут поправочку надо сделать. С матерью по имени Металлика жили ещё три мужика вместе с Золотым. ))
8 дек 2025
olly71, если так рассуждать, тогда Мастейн ещё и алименты должен Металлике платить, а не наоборот😄
8 дек 2025
Санчез, не, справедливо бы было: "Убирайся нахрен из нашей группы, и песенки свои вонючие забери, без тебя обойдёмся!!!".
Дэйв, как автор, запретил им использовать свой материал при его увольнении.

Ну, это если тему справедливости раскачивать.))
9 дек 2025
Nepalcev, песня была написана в составе группы - песня и осталась в группе, что еще надо то? Это ладно, если бы она была на демке или группа не успела издать песню и распалась - тогда еще понимаю.
Это тоже самое, если разработчик игр придумал крутой концепт для игры, спустя несколько лет есть уже франшиза, но по истечению времени разраб покинул кампанию, НО! Права на игру остались у той самой кампании.
Пример: франшиза Command & Conquer. Оригинальная команда это Westwood Studios. После их распада в 2002 или в 2003 все права остались на франшизу у EA (Возможно не самый удачный пример, могу согласиться, но всяко лучше чем сравнивание живой жизни в виде отпрыска и песни как тут писал некоторый тут). Так и работают права, бизнес и бла бла бла, с этим глупо как то спорить.
А Дэйв, такое чувство, обидчивая альтушка какая то, которая вон уже несколько лет ноет. радоваться надо, что такие классные песни придумал, и еще вопрос - если он такой вот автор ахуенный, что кричит об этом, почему он он не исполнял их на концертах, это касается того же Ride the Lightning в оригинальном виде и так далее... Он не хотел пиарить песни Металики или что Или он может только кричать?)))
ВОН, взять ту же Арию опять - У них есть альбом С кем ты. Большаков и Алик ушли из группы, образовали Мастер - записали свои варианты некоторых арийских песен и с ними тоже катались и исполнялись. И это каверы, это факт. Кавер - это когда исполнитель 2 перепевает исполнителя 1. У нас тут следующая схема - Исполнитель 2 - это мегасмерть, исполнитель 1 - это металлика. Кавер в данный случай делает не на автора песни и не на композитора, а на исполнитель, а оригинальный исполнитель песни Ride the Lightning это Metallica, и сама песня была выпушена в 1984 году на втором альбоме. Все, очень, просто, почти как математика, зачем вообще поднимать этот самый вопрос о справедливости и том что есть кавер а что нет... Не надо размусоливать тему из этого, а то делаете из мухи слова.
9 дек 2025
Санчез, речь не про кавер, а про "справедливость", тобою всуе помянутую.

(Да и к каверу ты тут формально докопался. Ясное дело что это кавер, и Мастейну это тоже понятно. Но он говорит об эмоциональной для него составляющей. Что это не просто чужая левая песня им перепетая, а часть его прошлого. Последний альбом, завершение пути музыканта, и вся эта история. Ну и продавать же это как-то требуется. Понимать, сука, надо....)))

Примеры корпораций и кодинга не корректны. Там людей нанимают, и они находясь на содержании корпорации, наверняка под изначально договорными отношениями, получив техзадание, создают продукт на деньги корпорации. Это конкретно работа в найме по заранее обговоренным сторонами правилам. Там куча нюансов, смежных прав, торговых марок и т.д.

А тут изначально была группа юных голодранцев, никаких там юридических договоров до выхода дебютника явно не было. Тупо играли в кайф за пиццу и пиво... Плюс автор не сам ушел, а его вышвырнули, и, заметь, ещё ДО издания каких бы то ни было официальных релизов и "физического возникновения объектов прав".

Справедливостью там не пахло, просто забудь это слово, только и всего.)))
9 дек 2025
Nepalcev, да все равно, он сам виноват. Выгнали заслуженно, по итогу имеем две прекрасные группы
8 дек 2025
В связи с тем, что сам Рыжий путается в показаниях, решил поискать, что же все таки есть "кавер", есть ли некое устойчивое определение.

Википедия:
"A cover version, cover song, remake, revival, or simply cover is a new performance or recording by a musician other than the original performer or composer of the song"

С сайта Dictionary.com:
"A recording or performance of a song by a singer, instrumentalist, or group other than the original performer or composer."

Или еще цитата:
"A cover song is a new recording or performance of a song by an artist other than the original composer or performer(s)"

Т.е., в данном случае Рыжий не попадает под понятие "кавер". Кавер - исполнение песни кем-то, не являющимся оригинальным исполнителем или композитором. Рыжий - композитор, значит, не кавер.
8 дек 2025
Rutger, воля и Разум делает новые аранжировки песен арии времен 1986 - каверы, и все равно что Большаков автор большиснтва из этих песен.

+ на метал архивах четко и ясно написано - Ride the Lightning (Metallica cover)
8 дек 2025
Rutger, есть куча примеров, когда оригинальные авторы, которые уже не находились в своих изначальных коллективах, и они, будучи сольно или с другими чуваками делают записи песен той оригинальной банды, в которой они были - и это тоже каверы. Тот же Майкл Грейвс, Ди Ди Рамон...
9 дек 2025
Rutger, перезапись - это когда оригинальный исполнитель свою же песню перезаписывает, партии остаются такие же, но звук понятное дело, более современный
Ремейк - почти тоже самое что и перезапись, только есть некоторые различия и отличия, или песня вообще сделана полегче или потяжелее, могу в пример привести песню I Remember You от Skid Row
А кавер - Кавер - это когда исполнитель 2 перепевает песню или песни исполнителя 1.
9 дек 2025
Санчез, все верно. Но если исполнитель 2 является композитором песни (автором\соавтором), то это не кавер. Кавером может считаться только полностью чужая песня, в этом суть. И это факт.
9 дек 2025
Rutger, не факт. Кавер, он на то и кавер, что он на исполнителя оригинальной песни, тобишь металлику, а не на автора текста или музыки.
1) Берем группу Immortal, альбом Blizzard Beasts, а если еще конкретнее - песня Nebular Ravens Winter. Автор - Аббатх, НО! на сольном альбоме того же аббата есть этот трек и везде он указан как кавер на группу Immortal.
2) Берем недавно почившего Эйса Фрейли, конкретно альбом Origins Vol. 1. Там есть две песни его сочинительства, это Паразит и Холодный Джин. Песни написаны им, но также указаны как кавер на группу KISS. Альбом этот заявлен как альбом-сборник КАВЕР ВЕРСИЙ на других исполнителей. Думаю, тут вопросы уже сами отпадают
3) Берём сборник трибьюn группы ЧЕрный шабаш. Там есть трек Iron Man, кавер тоже. Записан группой Therapy? совместно с Оззи Осборном. А Оззи тоже как бы автор, и он автор тех же Параноидов всяких и NIB...
4) Берём песню I want out. Песню написал Kai Hansen, исполнила группа Helloween. Челик ушёл, основал Гамма рэй, но не суть... Берем группу HammerFall. Они записывали кавер версию на эту песню при участии автора. Тоже кавер, и все равно что участвует оригинальный автор или еще что.

Я к чему в общем то. Давай с другой стороны. Вот, писал какой нибудь Егор Летов или Виктор Цой песни, они оба писали песни для своих групп. И если бы они выступали сольно или еще что (Может и выступали), и исполняли эти песни группы кино - Это исполнение песен ГРУППЫ, тоесть тоже своего рода КАВЕР, а то что ты автор или композитор - это вообще не играет роли. Песня выпускается группой, а не одним автором, она изначально и написана была для группы. А если бывшие участники исполняют песни своих старых коллективов, в которых их уже нет - тоже кавер, факт. Удо тому пример или Кипелов, Князь. Или вообще всякие Дикинсон, Хэлфорд, которые исполняют песни своих групп с другими участниками или участники своих сольных проектов. Если Допустим Ди Снайдер выпустил в сольном альбоме оркестровую или симфоническую версию We're Not Gonna Take It, которая прежде всего песня группы Twisted Sister - это и будет кавер на группу Twisted Sister.
Это так работает. Можешь быть хоть одним участником в группе, написать 1000 песен, в разных жанрах и инструментах. самое главное - как называется твоя группа. Давай еще проще - группа называется КККАШКА. Выпустил песню МОЧЕГОН. Ты основал другой проект в другом жанре или решил под своим реальным именем писать новую музыку или выступать. Если ты записываешь под этим именем эту же песню МОЧЕГОН - это будет кавер на ГРУППУ КККашка. Всё от этого зависит
Да, я немного сгорел, но сужу здраво и логично. Если бы песня Ride the Lightning изначально вышла под брендом Megadeth, базару ноль! первая версия звучала бы на дебютнике и его слова о том, что он пишет новую версию - вполне логично! Но вот беда, песня вышла в исполнении и под брендом Металлики. Итог - Кавер
9 дек 2025
Санчез, я стараюсь судить по фактической стороне, и опираться на хоть какие-то доказательства и первоисточники. Свежайший пример - перезапись альбома Balls To The Wall целиком (!) под вывеской Dirkshneider. Диркшнайдер, хоть и реально не писал вообще ничего, но формально указан как соавтор всех песен. Если изучить само издание, его обложку и всю полиграфию, ты нигде не найдешь упоминания, что это кавер. Это фирменный продукт звукозаписывающего лейбла, сделанные по всем законам бизнеса, первоисточник информации. Где там написано, что это каверы? Нигде.

Вот ссылка на оф. мерч:

https://shop.udo-online.de/products/balls-to-the-wall-reoloaded-vinyl-winter-blue-edition-signed

Где упоминание, что все песни - каверы? Их нет. Это такие же его песни, как бы нелепо это не звучало для тех, кто в теме.

То, что потом кто-то, какие-то сайты, типа Метал Архива, или даже сами музыканты, вешают ярлыки "кавер", или ты, например, СЧИТАЕШЬ, что это каверы - просто мнение, и все.
Твоя теория опирается исключительно на первенство выпуска песни, при прочих равных для ее соавторов. Чей шильдик первый встал, того и тапки, а остальные соавторы после записывают "каверы" той же, т.е. своей же песни. Документальных, юридических подтверждений "теории первенства" нет.
Так что, факт. Не кавер.
9 дек 2025
Rutger, "Теория первенства" - о нет, ты ошибаешься, это не теория, это факт. Если условный Пол Маккартни сочинил и исполнил песню с битлами, а потом лет через 20-30 исполнил её в составе другого коллектива - это ну очевидно что кавер на битлов...
Ладно мое мнение, а чем тебе не нравится мнение музыкантов? В чём они то не правы?
Полиграфия не аргумент, ибо даже в 2025 она может:
-содержать ошибки
-чего то не написано может быть
-много воды по типу "спасибо тем то тем то", а полезной инфы которая для каждого своя - ее либо мало, либо нет вовсе.
Твое вот это "Если на сканах не указано или не написано - значит что это не факт...". Возникает вопрос... Уши для чего? если я слышу, что это мотив, риффы, текст и название песни, которую ИСПОЛНЯЕТ СОВЕРШЕННО ДРУГОЙ КОЛЛЕКТИВ... Ну очевидно же, что это кавер, емае. Интернет есть, все проверить можно, кто друг друга каверит и кто какие песни исполняет. А метал архивы правильно делают, указывают что кавер, а что нет. Если бы не такие сайты, я бы как в 2015 слушал Whiskey in the Jar, и не подумал бы даже, что это песня из народного ирландского фольклора, а сам мотив и мелодия взяты от Thin Lizzy.... Путаница же
Опять же таки к полиграфии, вернемся опять к меге и теме каверов: Anarchy In The U.K. Выходила синглом отдельным и на третьем альбоме. На скане не указано что это кавер, но это кавер же))) https://www.discogs.com/ru/master/32927-Megadeth-So-Far-So-Good-So-What/image/SW1hZ2U6NzQ5ODU5MDI=
No More Mr. Nice Guy - выходила синглом тоже, на сингле нет инфы о том что это кавер, НО ЭТО КАВЕЕЕР. На сканах саундтрек к фильму, где он изначально выходил то же нет этого заветного Alice Cooper Cover, но думаю и дальше ясно, что это... Ну ты сам понял (https://www.discogs.com/ru/master/311433-Various-Wes-Cravens-Shocker-No-More-Mr-Nice-Guy-The-Music/image/SW1hZ2U6NDMxNDE1Mw==)
теперь, Delivering The Goods... Сам подумаешь или мне ответить, что это в итоге?)
Полиграфия - не аргумент
9 дек 2025
Rutger, первенство также играет роль в том, кто первый выпустил полноценный альбом в новом или каком то жанре... Но это тема для других дискуссий
9 дек 2025
Rutger, если какой нибудь Алексей Белов будет исполнять на сольных концертах или на студийных релиза песни Группы Парк Горького - это так и так кавер. Также будет работать и с каким нибудь Виталием Дубининым, Керри Кингом, Стивом Ваем и так далее и так далее. Я понимаю, что я кажусь ебанутым душнилой, кого обидим, извините,, но блять - то что я говоря это банальная основа, которую нужно понимать. Все эти обидки и нытье Мастейна - вообще пердеж в лужу и лишний инфоповод напомнить о себе, чтобы на него тоже обратили внимание, потому что он БЫЛ, именно что БЫЛ в самом начале Металлики
8 дек 2025
Brad Parker был гитаристом Металлики на единственом концерте 23 апреля 1982 года . Мастейн к тому времени был в составе группы уже 5 месяцев они вместе сочиняли песни и к тому дню дали уже 8 концертов и только теперь *он впервые увидел, как Джеймс играет на гитаре * . Хм ... наблюдательный однако ))
8 дек 2025
olly71, речь о сценическом амплуа Хэта как фронтмена-гитариста.
В начале их карьеры Хэтфилд был свободным вокалистом, и на гитаре играть на сцене не планировал. Поэтому всякие Паркеры и мелькали в составе. А потом он уже окончательно утвердился как поющий гитарист. Вот об этом первом впечатлении Дэйв тут и говорит.
9 дек 2025
значит на конверте будет без пометки cover будет название песни и указано соавторство Хэтфилда, Берттона и Ульриха? Но интересно, будет ли там вписан Хаммет, который написал соло - вот что интересно 😏
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