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4 окт 2022
'Idiot' SEBASTIAN BACH And 'Dummy' RONNIE RADKE Exchange Insults In Twitter Feud Over Use Of Backing Tracks
Just hours before FALLING IN REVERSE was supposed to appear at the WIIL Rock festival on Saturday, September 24 at Lake County Fairgrounds in Grayslake, Illinois, the singer and his bandmates scrapped their performance because their laptops — which the musicians use to "run" their "show" — were lost. At the time, Radke said in a video message that he and his bandmates had "no other option" because "as a band in 2022, you need your laptops. It's like driving a car without an engine."
A couple of days later, SiriusXM radio personality Eddie Trunk, who has been a vocal critic of rock bands using pre-recorded tracks at their live shows, blasted FALLING IN REVERSE for canceling the concert, writing on his social media: "This is astonishing .. First I heard about this I thought it was a joke to wind me up. How much longer are fans, promoters , media, just going to accept the epidemic of live rock shows… not really being live? Paying your hard earned money to see a band play 'live' that's not truly live?! And there are countless bands in 2022 that hone their craft and play live! Tons! New and old !! Including the one that subbed for them in their slot, JACKYL . No laptop needed there! This is just unreal. But at least I give them credit for being honest. Wow. I am closer than ever to launching my own band. And I can't sing or play a note .. simply amazing."
On October 1, Radke took to his Twitter to respond to Trunk, writing: "@EddieTrunk so you wanna talk hella Shit about laptops but go watch kiss lip sync, Steven Tyler plays the piano then half way through the song he stands on top of piano while it sill plays yet here we are acting like they all don't use tracks you fucking idiot. Literal moron". He also shared a video of Trunk introducing Bach's solo band at a performance, and he included the following message: "@EddieTrunk introducing @sebastianbach using tracks, both idiots talking Shit about me using tracks can't make this shit up." A short time later, Bach fired back, writing: "Wow dummy are you trying to say that you believe that I use tracks on stage? @EddieTrunk how f****** funny is this". Radke then responded: "There's a fake audience cheer in your intro tracks and also fake drums the fuck you mean? that shit isn't real you are using a fake audience cheering as you walk out on a fucking track hence you using tracks."
Things escalated further when Bach tweeted "Watch what happens when track bands call real musicians idiots", prompting Radke to write: "The fuck is your bitch ass gonna do? You disrespect an entire generation of people after you that use synths laptops and backing tracks all while using a fake audience on a track as you walk out, fuck you and fuck Eddie trunks bitch ass". Sebastian later added: "It's always so much fun to show someone what the world was like before the internet existed get f****** ready. Virtual reality is so much fun until you have to deal with actual reality. In your face. Can't wait to meet you in person. Name the time and the place and I will introduce you to rock and roll in person man".
Not backing down, Ronnie wrote: "What a fucking BUMMER this man that we all once loved is literally disrespecting an entire generation of bands. You got a lot of people that grew up listening to you you should be ashamed of yourself. Shit changes so do people the fuck is your problem".
Earlier today, the Twitter feud continued, with Radke sharing a classic video of QUEEN performing "Bohemian Rhapsody" and writing: "@sebastianbach @eddietrunk and any other literal clown: I guess Queen isn't real Rock since in 1986 they used full tracks to play bohemian rhapsody and walked off stage". Within minutes, Sebastian responded: "Laptops were not invented in 1986 tho You realize that laptops didn't come around till like 1997 right genius? So then how did Queen get on the stage? If laptops were not invented don't they have 2 cancel the show? How did this clip happen without laptops isn't that impossible?"
One person who seemingly defended Radke and FALLING IN REVERSE is MÖTLEY CRÜE's Nikki Sixx. The bassist wrote: "Keep beating that fake bullshit drum. Sounds so 'Get Off My Lawn'. God forbid if some artists use technology as a creative tool on albums and in live settings. I get it. Just open your mind and stop fighting reality. Makes you sound outta touch and I like that you fly the rock flag."
Back in 2019, Bach weighed in on artists who use pre-recorded tracks at their live shows, saying that "it's becoming very rare" to see bands "not miming or doing silly moves while a tape is running." The former SKID ROW singer told Consequence Of Sound: "I don't know how much longer I can say to you that I don't use tapes onstage, because I don't, and I never have. And I still don't. I'm not going to for this tour. I feel like I'm one of the last people. When I have opening bands, and they're using tapes, and then I come out and I don't use tapes… sometimes, it makes me feel stupid, because I'm like, 'What am I doing, when all these kids half my age can come onstage and do all of my moves, but they don't have to warm up for an hour before the show, or weeks, before the first show?' Sometimes, I'm like, 'Why do I even bother, if the public is so used to this other way'?”
"I just did this cruise, called the Legends Of Rock cruise, and there were all older bands — like KANSAS and Edgar Winter," he continued. "These guys come onstage and destroy you with their musicality. None of these bands on this cruise used tapes. And KANSAS, I was hanging out with that dude with the eyepatch [guitarist Rich Williams], and he said, 'I tell people, 'Come see this while it still exists,'' because it's becoming very rare to come see a good band that's actually a real band — that's not miming or doing silly moves while a tape is running. It just becomes more rare as the years go on."
Asked why he thinks artists using pre-recorded tracks live seems much more prevalent nowadays, Bach said: "Because everybody films everything on their phones, and then posts it all. That's the reason. Nobody wants to jump around too much and then hit a bad note, and then have it be posted on the internet, and people say, 'He's not singing it like the record.' Well, nobody is jumping around when they're on the record. So, you can either freeze or sit in a chair — that's how you make a record — and if you want to do that, it's going to be a pretty boring show."
He went on to say: "Most performers say, 'Singing is too hard.' I'm not from that school. I've done four Broadway shows — I don't transpose the keys down; I can still hit all the notes. I might not hit them all just like the record on any given night. I might not be as good as I once was… but I'm good once as I ever was. [Laughs]"
Bach previously defended KISS against claims that the band is using pre-recorded tracks during its farewell tour. "I listened to Paul Stanley sing his ass off LIVE," Sebastian tweeted after witnessing KISS's concert at the Honda Center in Anaheim, California. "I have seen way more obvious use of backing tracks than with KISS… KISS is not lip syncing," he added. "There are too busy putting on the greatest rock show you will ever see."
In July 2020, Bach accused FOZZY frontman Chris Jericho of using pre-recorded lead vocal tracks during live performances. The former SKID ROW frontman initially claimed Jericho was "miming to a tape" at FOZZY concerts in a social media post. In response, the wrestler-turned-rocker insisted that he had "never mimed anything ever" and challenged Bach to a "singoff" with "no effects, no tuning, no bullshit", saying "Bas is a great singer...but I'm better".
In the months that ensued, Bach brought up Jericho's alleged lip syncing on several occasions, most recently in January 2021 in an interview with The Aquarian Weekly. Asked specifically about his feud with Chris, Sebastian said: "I have an open mind about everyone. If I read on Blabbermouth.com [sic] that some band says, 'We're the future of rock 'n' roll and we are the next thing after THE ROLLING STONES,' I think, this must be incredible! What have I been missing out on? So, I checked out one video during which the singer was 100% miming to a tape on stage at The Rockpile in Toronto. I thought to myself, 'That's weird, that's not the next ROLLING STONES.' So, I watch another video where he was opening up for NICKELBACK in an arena and, again, he's miming to a tape. You can go watch it for yourself. Then someone said, 'Here's a clip of him singing live. Legit, bro.' And it's him miming to a tape again. It's crazy obvious. It is not my opinion, it's fact. It is not me starting a fight. But don't tell me what singing live is, 'cause I have never used tape. I don't even know how to do that."
.@EddieTrunk so you wanna talk hella Shit about laptops but go watch kiss lip sync, Steven Tyler plays the piano then half way through the song he stands on top of piano while it sill plays yet here we are acting like they all don’t use tracks you fucking idiot. Literal moron pic.twitter.com/5tot7FNt1S
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 1, 2022
.@EddieTrunk introducing @sebastianbach using tracks, both idiots talking Shit about me using tracks can’t make this shit up. pic.twitter.com/5lI8D6lSzE
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 1, 2022
Brendan fraiser everybody… pic.twitter.com/mopgmKalZP
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
Just falling in reverse @ rehearsal doing popular monster live so @EddieTrunk who has zero musical insight can give us a thumbs up on Facebook pic.twitter.com/xNwsHn3m6S
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
.@sebastianbach so @lukeholland is a shitty fake drummer now huh? Lmfao pic.twitter.com/iVtpSfXrXi
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
.@Sebastianbach that was a Taylor Hawkins tribute show, Taylor Hawkins drew the crowd. Are you taking credit from him now too? pic.twitter.com/GWUmgfSu4z
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
okay since you are adamant on thinking that we aren’t real musicians… let’s start with how many instruments both of us can play.. lets see who’s a real musician then lol I’ll start with piano…. https://t.co/66oSmXFNTa
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
.@sebastianbach am I crazy or this you quite literally performing with only a laptop and tracks https://t.co/zP0oQHi6Lv
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
This is besides the point but here’s another L https://t.co/0jO03lrWowpic.twitter.com/LnigKqD0Ri
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 2, 2022
why am I not seeing any bands besides literally Nikki Sixx defending this situation? You all use tracks LMAO
— RonnieRadke (@RonnieRadke) October 1, 2022. @EddieTrunk so you wanna talk hella Shit about laptops but go watch kiss lip sync, Steven Tyler plays the piano then half way through the song he stands on top of piano while it sill plays yet here we are acting like they all don’t use tracks you fucking idiot. Literal moron pic.twitter.com/5tot7FNt1Sokay since you are adamant on thinking that we aren’t real musicians… let’s start with how many instruments both of us can play.. lets see who’s a real musician then lol I’ll start with piano…. https://t.co/66oSmXFNTawhy am I not seeing any bands besides literally Nikki Sixx defending this situation? You all use tracks LMAO
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