Arts
RUS
Search / Поиск
LOGIN
  register
MENU LOGO
×
СОБЫТИЯ
Новости
Новости.Рус
Видео
Концерты
Репортажи
МУЗЫКА
Группы
Рецензии
Интервью
Стили
ИСКУССТВО
Графика
ОБЩЕНИЕ
Форум
Ссылки
Контакты

LOGIN
Новости
*STEVE MORSE On DEEP PURPLE: SIMON MCBRIDE 'Is Fitting T... 39
*HALESTORM's LZZY And AREJAY HALE Open Up About Mental H... 38
* 36
* 28
*EDGE OF SANITY / NIGHTINGALE Catalogue Reissue Campaign Ann... 25
* 21
*DEEP PURPLE Announces New Album '=1' 19
*ACCEPT’s WOLF HOFFMANN – “People Ask Me, &... 16
*HELLBUTCHER Featuring Former NIFELHEIM Members Announce Debu... 14
*VINNY APPICE Reflects On His Brief Stint As VERIZON Employee... 12
Поиск по новостям O
Фраза, имя группы
Группы в стиле
 
Подстиль
 
Основной стиль
Дата : с по  
Новости
[= ||| все новости группы



*

Anthrax

*



25 апр 2024 : 
Watch ANTHRAX's Uruguay Concert Featuring Original Bassist DAN LILKER

24 апр 2024 : 
JOHN BUSH 'Would Be Open To Doing Something Really Fun And Cool' With ANTHRAX Again

21 апр 2024 : 
Watch ANTHRAX's Costa Rica Concert Featuring Original Bassist DAN LILKER

18 апр 2024 : 
Watch ANTHRAX's Entire El Salvador Concert Featuring Original Bassist DAN LILKER

15 апр 2024 : 
Watch: ANTHRAX Plays First Concert With Original Bassist DAN LILKER In 40 Years

9 апр 2024 : 
DAN LILKER Says He Is 'Just Filling In' For FRANK BELLO At Upcoming ANTHRAX Shows: 'I'm Doing My Friends A Favor'

31 мар 2024 : 
ANTHRAX To Be Rejoined By Bassist DAN LILKER After 40-Year Absence For April/May 2024 Tour Dates

2 фев 2024 : 
FRANK BELLO On Upcoming ANTHRAX Album: 'We Stepped Up The Heaviness'

2 дек 2023 : 
Is ANTHRAX's JOEY BELLADONNA Still Carrying Resentment Toward His Bandmates Over Being Fired Twice? 'I Don't Forget', He Says

6 окт 2023 : 
JOEY BELLADONNA To Start Recording Vocals For ANTHRAX's New Album In November

17 авг 2023 : 
JOEY BELLADONNA Says He Has Yet To Record Any Vocals On New ANTHRAX Music

9 авг 2023 : 
ANTHRAX's SCOTT IAN Is Okay With Use Of Backing Tracks During Live Shows: 'Whatever It Takes To Get A Show On'

29 июл 2023 : 
ANTHRAX's SCOTT IAN Thanks Los Angeles County Firefighters For Saving His Home

24 июл 2023 : 
JOEY BELLADONNA Looks Back On His ANTHRAX Audition: 'I Had No Idea What I Was Dealing With Musically'

11 июл 2023 : 
FRANK BELLO Is 'Hoping' To Get New ANTHRAX Album Out In 2024

24 июн 2023 : 
JOHN BUSH On Solo Tour Celebrating His Era Of ANTHRAX: 'It's Something I Would Like To Do Before I Die'

29 май 2023 : 
Watch: ANTHRAX Joined By MACHINE HEAD's ROBB FLYNN For 'I Am The Law' At MILWAUKEE METAL FEST

24 май 2023 : 
SCOTT IAN Says Recording Sessions For Next ANTHRAX Album Are 'Going Great'

23 май 2023 : 
ANTHRAX Recruits Drummer DEREK RODDY For MILWAUKEE METAL FEST Performance

1 май 2023 : 
ANTHRAX Officially Enters Studio To Begin Recording Long-Awaited New Album

20 апр 2023 : 
ANTHRAX Cancels Summer 2023 European Tour Dates 'Due To Logistics'

4 апр 2023 : 
ANTHRAX To Begin Recording New Album In Two Weeks

3 апр 2023 : 
Watch: ANTHRAX's SCOTT IAN Joined By His Wife And Son For Performance Of BLACK SABBATH And LED ZEPPELIN Classics

13 мар 2023 : 
ANTHRAX's CHARLIE BENANTE: 'I Have Nothing Against Bands Who Wanna Enhance Their Performance' With Some Backing Tracks

22 фев 2023 : 
ANTHRAX's FRANK BELLO Recalls Waking Up In Someone Else's Blood

21 фев 2023 : 
ANTHRAX's JOEY BELLADONNA 'Can't Get Down With' Lead Singers Lip Syncing During Concerts
Показать далее
| - |

|||| 2 ноя 2020

ANTHRAX's SCOTT IAN Looks Back On The Day METALLICA Fired DAVE MUSTAINE



zoom
In a brand new interview with MACHINE HEAD frontman Robb Flynn's "No Fuckin' Regrets With Robb Flynn" podcast, ANTHRAX guitarist Scott Ian recalled being present at METALLICA's rehearsal studios in Jamaica, Queens, New York in April 1983 shortly after the James Hetfield fronted-act fired Dave Mustaine just days before METALLICA began recording its debut album.

"They all drank, but Dave drank more than they did," Scott recalled wit ha laugh (see video below). "And the difference with Dave was, from my memory of that time, 'cause we were there all the time — we were hanging out with them all the time — all those other guys would get drunk and it was always fun, and Dave was kind of the not-fun guy when he would get too drunk. I mean, everybody knows one [guy like that]. And I think that was basically the beginning of the end, because now they were living together [at the rehearsal studio], and they were in close quarters all the time together, and I think they realized, they were, like, 'How the hell are we gonna keep doing this and move forward if we're constantly worrying about this?'

"I remember walking in one day and Cliff [Burton, then-METALLICA bassist] was standing outside having a smoke," he continued. "And I [said], 'Hey, man, what's up?' He was, like, 'Not much. We fired Mustaine. He's on a bus, he's on a Greyhound back to the [San Francisco] Bay Area.' [And I was, like], 'Yeah, right.' He was, like, 'No. I'm serious.' And it's Cliff, so he was that total ballbuster wise-ass. And he was just kind of smirking at me. And I'm, like, 'Shut up. You're playing a show week. Who's gonna play guitar?' He was, like, 'We've already got a guy coming.' I said, 'Get the fuck outta here.' He goes, 'Go upstairs. Ask James.' So I go up to the room. They're just kind of dicking around in the room. I don't see Dave. And I'm, like, 'What's going on? Cliff tells me you guys fired Dave.' And Lars [Ulrich, METALLICA drummer] was, like, 'We did. Early this morning, we put him on a bus. He's already five hours on the way back to California.' [I was, like], 'What? What?' We had no idea. I [said], 'What are you gonna do?' [They said], 'We've got this guy coming from this band EXODUS that we know. He's getting here tomorrow.'"

According to Scott, Mustaine was very much the focal point of METALLICA during the band's early live shows. "People don't know that," he said. "James wasn't James yet. When I first met James, he would drink and he would change, but James, he was kind of like a shy, quiet dude. Dave was the mouthpiece. Dave was the guy. He was the frontman — a hundred percent… He was the attitude; he was the personality — it was everything. And I was kind of, like, 'You think this is the right idea?' And [they said], 'We had to. We couldn't deal with it anymore. He was getting us into trouble.'

"Everyone knows the stories, but they just didn't wanna have to deal with that," Ian continued. "It was hard enough living on the floor of a freezing-cold building, I guess, and dealing with your own issues [and then] have to worry about someone else's… I mean, I get it. I understand. It's what had to happen in that moment. I've been there myself, making personnel changes in my band. I understand it. Sometimes it's the most impossible, worst thing in the world to have to do, but in order to take that next step forward, you have to."

In a 2009 interview with Norway's Lydverket, Mustaine said that he was "so hurt" by getting kicked out of METALLICA for allegedly drinking too much. "I said, 'What?! No second chance, no warning? C'mon, we all drink. C'mon.'" he recalled. "And [they were like], 'No, that's it. You're gone.' And I was like, 'All right.'"

Mustaine also went on to claim that an altercation with Hetfield led to his being fired from METALLICA.

"I was selling pot," Dave said. "When I would go play in concert, people knew that my pot was sitting in my apartment just saying, 'Go ahead and keep me company.' So I was broken in on. People stole everything that I had; all my stash. And I figured, screw this. I'm gonna get some dogs to stay in the apartment when I leave. So I got two dogs and I took one of them up to a rehearsal one time and she put her paws up on Ron's [McGovney, METALLICA's then-bassist] car. And James kicked it right in the side. And I was like, 'What did you do?' [And I was like] 'It's a dog, it's what they do. You don't kick animals.' So we went into the house, and we started arguing some more. And I ended up punching him in the face and I think that was the root of why I lost my job."

In a 2009 interview with the Dallas/Ft. Worth, Texas radio station 97.1 The Eagle Rocks, Hetfield said that it was "so odd" to hear Mustaine still talking about his exit from METALLICA. "It is very Dave, and that's him," James said. "And no matter what band he was in or whatever... I mean, Dave is not in this band for a reason, and this is the reason. It's super-simple. He was in the band for 11 months and it goes on and on and on and on and on. I don't know any other band on this planet that there was a member in the band for a short amount of time and they've still got this big chip on his shoulder. It's insane.... You know what?! He's in love, and that's fine, 'cause we love him back."

Back in 2016, Mustaine's METALLICA replacement, Kirk Hammett, told the "Word Of Wheeler" podcast that he understood Dave's continued resentment toward his former bandmates over the way he was dismissed from the group. "I've always seen Dave as someone who was just really, really sad, really angry, really frustrated about his situation with METALLICA, and he never could let that go," he said. "And, you know, I've always shown a lot of empathy for him, understanding that he was just pissed off. It's the equivalent of the woman of your life leaving you. I mean, really. When your band kicks you out… I've never been kicked out, but I can imagine it's a horrible experience, especially if it's a band that you feel really passionately about. So I can understand Dave's plight over all these years. But I will also say that when we did these 30th-anniversary shows at the Fillmore [in San Francisco], and we invited Dave to play on all those 'Kill 'Em All' songs, man, it felt so good to have him playing on stage. It felt perfectly fine for me to, while Dave was playing the guitar solos, for me to go over to James and play the rhythm parts with James, and it wasn't a big deal at all. And I could see from the look on Dave's face and just from his whole attitude that it was super-cathartic for him. And I could see how it was helping him. And so I just took it all in stride. And it's interesting, because since then, I think, Dave's relationship with us is a little bit better now. I'd like to think that that whole thing just kind of healed some scars that needed to be healed."

After Hammett's comments about Mustaine were reported by BLABBERMOUTH.NET and other music sites, Dave took to his Twitter to respond. He wrote: "I have tremendous respect for @KirkHammett and I appreciate his take on this. he is almost 100% accurate...almost. I wish him the best."

In a September 2011 interview with Artisan News, Mustaine appeared to concur that his onstage reunion with METALLICA went a long way toward healing the wounds from the way his tenure in the band ended. Dave said: "When we [played a cover of DIAMOND HEAD's] 'Helpless' [as part of a 'Big Four' jam] one night, I walked over to say hello to Kirk on the stage and he said, 'Do you wanna take the solo?" and I said, 'Yeah.' [Laughs] But we forgot to tell anybody on the stage or [running] the sound out front that I was gonna do the solo, so the song's playing along and Kirk's playing rhythm full blast, and I'm sitting there going you can't hear what I'm doing. At least we knew what had happened. It was kind of a symbolic passing of the torch back to me and it was a nice gesture. I think that that helped Kirk and my relationship improve a bit."

In a September 2004 interview, Mustaine famously stated, "I really don't care about Kirk — he stole my job, but at least I got to bang his girlfriend before he took my job. How do I taste, Kirk?"

Mustaine did not play on any METALLICA albums and did not attend their induction into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame in 2009.

Ulrich later explained to The Plain Dealer that Mustaine was not included because "you've got to kind of cap it somewhere. Dave Mustaine never played on any METALLICA records. No disrespect to him. But there [were] half a dozen other people that were in the lineup in the early days. We thought . . . the fair thing to do would be to include anybody that played on a METALLICA record." He added: "Dave Mustaine was in the band for 11 months, predominantly in 1982... I'm not trying to play it down. I have nothing but respect and admiration for his accomplishments since."

Mustaine told Lydverket that he never had any intention of attending METALLICA's Rock Hall induction if he wasn't going to be honored along with his former bandmates.

"I think someone would have to be a complete fool to think I was gonna go there and sit in the audience and watch them be inducted into the Hall Of Fame," he said. "It was nice that Lars that invited me, but any of the public that thinks I was gonna go... But what are you — stupid?! I'm proud of them, I wish them well, but what do I have to do?! That's masochism."

ANTHRAX





Like!+18Dislike!-1


КомментарииСкрыть/показать 26 )

Комментарии могут добавлять только зарегистрированные пользователи.
Вы можете зарегистрироваться на сайте или залогиниться через социальные сети (иконки вверху сайта).

2 ноя 2020
А потом уже в июне сразу после записи альбома уже в Сан францизско они провели несколько репетиций перед будущими большими гастролями впятером ( то есть с Мастейном и Хэмметом ) . Тут не понятно – толи делали окончательный выбор кто же всё таки будет Лид гитаристом дальше то ли планировалось что Хэтфилд будет только петь. Но эти репетиции факт . Об этом говорил потом и сам Мастейн и Хэммет и Рон Макговни который тоже там присутствовал .
2 ноя 2020
"Так Костя Иночкин потерял ещё одного друга"
2 ноя 2020
Металлика умерла после ухода Муштейна
2 ноя 2020
Ну да, это заявления сродни тому, как какая-то отдельно конкретная группа умерла, как только её альбом был издан лейблом и выставлен на прилавок для продажи, а пока они были без контракта и продавали, либо просто раздавали пришедшим на свое шоу демки, было всё отлично.
Да что уж там, лучшая музыка - тишина! Лучшая группа та, у которой нет названия и которая вообще не существует.
2 ноя 2020
Пройдут долги и долгие годы, а мы так и будем вновь и вновь обсуждать вечные темы, поросшие мхом: как выгнали Мастейна, как Мастейн написал всё для Металлики, как плохо играет Хэммет, как Металлика умерла после смерти Клиффа, как Металлика умерла после чёрного альбома, как дважды мёртвая Металлика продалась во времена Load...
2 ноя 2020
...и как совсем сдохла под симфонический оркестр.
2 ноя 2020
по мне Металлика умерла после стангера. на этом альбоме была команда, которая делала что то, что она хотела сделать, делала это с эмоциями, с огнем. после этого все, огонь погас, группа стала компанией забальзамированных тел, которые ездят в туры, пишут что то
2 ноя 2020
"потом уже в июне сразу после записи альбома уже в Сан францизско они провели несколько репетиций перед будущими большими гастролями впятером ( то есть с Мастейном и Хэмметом ) "

Что-что? Никогда такого не было вообще. Да ещё и МакГовни якобы там был)) А можно как-то подтвердить сей "факт"? Может ссылку там, или совместное фото той "РЕПЕТИЦИИ"))
2 ноя 2020
''...как Металлика умерла после смерти Клиффа, как Металлика умерла после чёрного альбома...''

А на Лу-Лу воскресла! )
2 ноя 2020
Ой ну прям легенды сизого леса, загадки бабы яги. Давида выперли, потому что он херово играл. Какие еще причины нужны, чтобы выпереть лид-гитариста? Странно только, кого после этого взяли)
2 ноя 2020
"...и как совсем сдохла под симфонический оркестр."
и даже это умудрилась дважды сделать)
2 ноя 2020
"по мне Металлика умерла после стангера"
В Ст.Энга огонь разве что от барабанов ульриха исходит, в остальном же это жмых от релоад, не говоря уже о перваке - Лоад + попытка вписаться в модную на тот момент тусовку. Это не огонь, а перегар!
3 ноя 2020
Новость буд-то спецом для дарксайда делали))
3 ноя 2020
>Давида выперли, потому что он херово играл. Какие еще причины нужны, чтобы выпереть лид-гитариста?
Если бы из метал групп выгоняли всех кто грязно играет, жанра бы давно уже не было. Очевидно, Дейва выгнали потому, что он был сексуальным, огненноволосым альфасамцом посреди компании состоящей из чуханистого обрыгана, датского карлика и дылды хиппаря. На лицо чернющая зависть!!!1
3 ноя 2020
R0ck_N_R0lla, сдулись сдулись сдулись - кто лучше?
Кто-то заставляет всю эту серость копировать друг друга?
3 ноя 2020
У всех есть такие знакомые-алкаши, за которых неловко и стыдно и которые реально напрягают.
Я таких вычистил давно из своего чёрного эстрадного круга.
3 ноя 2020
Вы сдурели тут что ли?

Load/RE - шикарная дилогия, и всегда ей была. Симфоника и Магнетик - отличные.
Anger и LuLu странные, но не отвратные.
Есть вопросы только по Hardwired - много кальки с прошлого, причем бездумной.

Гробовщики, мля.
Но поржал))
3 ноя 2020
""метла умерла после ухода Мастейна......"- блин, как это тупо звучит. кроме лулу и штангера вобщем у ребят всё ровно.
3 ноя 2020
Очевидно, Дейва выгнали потому, что он был сексуальным, огненноволосым альфасамцом посреди компании

он был алкашом и нариком который доставлял проблемы
3 ноя 2020
Посоны, не ругайтесь, Метла умерла после первой репетиции.
3 ноя 2020
хер. она умерла когда карлик решил у кого-то там название спиздить
3 ноя 2020
Не, метла подохла, когда Хэтфилд решил позвонить по объявлению, что дал Ларс.
3 ноя 2020
>он был алкашом и нариком который доставлял проблемы
Не катит, так про любого можно сказать. А жизнь в итоге показала кто является всепрощающим добряком, завязавшим с алкоголем и наркотиками, принявшим бога, а кто по настоящему зависим и из года в год шатается по реабилитационкам.
3 ноя 2020
При этом же статистика объективно показывает, кто является более угодным композитором для преобладающего большинства среди гривотрясов... и даже домохозяек!

Не думаю, что его уволили из-за того, что он был прирожденным лидером, скорее от того, что ржавый действительно тогда был хмырём, судя из описаний. Напьется и начнет тупо шутить, а потом уйдет в себя от мыслей, что он уже не у мирофонной стойки. Я могу себе вообразить многое, тот же репертуар Металлика с блеющим карлицким голосом мастейна. Это довольно жалко бы звучало. Пацаны правильно всё замутили, до того, как им пришлось бы еще подметать каждый раз в гараже использованные шприцы и волочь позеленевшее тело, словно мешок картошки.
3 ноя 2020
Избавились именно из-за того, что был самодостаточным лидером. Что подтверждается тем, что далее в Метле место было исключительно для статистов-конформистов. Хэт и Ульрих просто другого склада, они тогда уже вполне деловито относились к музыке и держали в уме успешную карьеру. Особенно Ларсик. Дикий, буйный и независимый Мастейн в эту парадигму не укладывался.
3 ноя 2020
Rutger, точно так.
"Тот кто в пятнадцать лет убежал из дома
Вряд ли поймет того кто учился в спецшколе..." - прям про них.)

Тут психология прежде всего, а не алкоголь.
Конфликт интересов формального и неформального лидеров.
Бытовуха сыграла лишь роль конкретного предлога для вскрытия нарывавших неизбежных противоречий.

просмотров: 9767

||| =]
[=     =]
/\\Вверх
Рейтинг@Mail.ru

1997-2024 © Russian Darkside e-Zine.
Если вы нашли на этой странице ошибку или есть комментарии и пожелания, то сообщите нам об этом